Thanks for the information. I couldn't agree with you more Tim about helping their project out in the short term. In saying this I am currently not running any tasks

Isn't it good if the project runs at maximum speed to get the results as fast as possible? So why do you complain?

Why would anyone set up a challenge involving a project that is known to be borderline supplying WUs on a day to day basis?

Not only does it make the challenge a lottery, it also messes up the long term volunteers.

With respect, the Project Admin was asked, IN ADVANCE, as to whether such a Challenge could be handled by the project.

However, the admin said that the project only issues about 600 tasks every 14 minutes...

Even so, this Challenge only lasts for 3 days (until Sunday at 9pm UTC) so it is hardly a long term inconvenience AND any members doing this Challenge are supporting a "smaller" project that can do with some short term help?

regards
Tim

Where a project has a fixed limit of 600 tasks every 14 minutes and the existing volunteers process 600 tasks every 14 minutes how are you providing short term help? This is my confusion.

Same issue as seen in the last formula boinc sprint in 2021 http://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/forum_thread.php?id=317#2363

Insufficient work generation.

Probably the same next year if there is a sprint.

Where a project has a fixed limit of 600 tasks every 14 minutes and the existing volunteers process 600 tasks every 14 minutes how are you providing short term help? This is my confusion.

If a project is in a position to provide a surge of tasks to coincide with the challenge then wonderful, work gets done faster, results get back to the researchers sooner, the challenge members have fun with a ready supply of tasks and everything is hunky dory but I cannot see the benefit of this to either party.

Tasks ready to send 933
Tasks in progress 57191

Where a project has a fixed limit of 600 tasks every 14 minutes and the existing volunteers process 600 tasks every 14 minutes how are you providing short term help? This is my confusion.

Because the existing volunteer pool isn't consuming the full 600 in 14 minutes is my guess as there's usually no shortage. This 'excess' is quickly eaten up with a challenge as we've seen.

If the number of volunteers grow, unless the project distributes more work, clearly there's a diminishing benefit to allowing challenges.

Where a project has a fixed limit of 600 tasks every 14 minutes and the existing volunteers process 600 tasks every 14 minutes how are you providing short term help? This is my confusion.

If a project is in a position to provide a surge of tasks to coincide with the challenge then wonderful, work gets done faster, results get back to the researchers sooner, the challenge members have fun with a ready supply of tasks and everything is hunky dory but I cannot see the benefit of this to either party.

I note your comment BUT as of now (and as the Challenge comes to an end at 9pm UTC tonight) the project has

Tasks ready to send 933
Tasks in progress 57191

so, there seems to be a significant number of available tasks now and generally speaking also most days as well - and I guess that the regular volunteers have only been inconvenienced for maybe 2 or 3 days.

And in the meantime, if every days full quota of available tasks have all been crunched then the project gains from this, surely?

regards
Tim

If you guess was correct then the number of available work units would grow over time but it remains fairly stable in normal circumstances so I guess your guess is incorrect :-)

Are we running out of tasks? Only 750 tasks left

On the status page the gene_work_generator is also deactivated

New tasks are still been generated but in smaller quantity than before. Total task in progress for the past 6 hours or so has been pretty constant at around 50K mark. Watch that number and see if it goes down/up over time to determine whether the volunteers are crunching much faster than the rate of new task been created and vice versa.

It shows 0 now, though maybe a few are still being generated. And Rosetta is out too. It is time for me to convert another machine to Folding.

As you can see on the left side of the server status page, the gene_work_generator is not running, hence no new work is generated.
The other components are running, so the completed workunits can be uploaded and validated.
Probably the project administrator intentionally stopped the work generator process, to reduce the workload on the (problematic) storage servers.
It would have been nice to announce it in the news feed before we notice the effect on our hosts.

Well the V-shaped recovery is underway



I estimate 24-36 hours based on the trend line

Thank you.
Sorry for putting the blame on you, I didn't know about the SQL server anomaly.

The work generator is not working.
My uploads are stuck.

I have the problem since some few days, that I only get some sporadic work. Since one day my system is fetching work, but does not get any tasks.

After moving to the new storage system, is the work generator still limited by the 600 WUs per 14 minutes?