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Message 3295 - Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 15:34:28 UTC - in response to Message 3294.

Is the reason that we have been working on wine grapes due to the existence of private funding?
Anything to improve wine is a good thing!

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Message 3296 - Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 22:13:51 UTC - in response to Message 3295.

Is the reason that we have been working on wine grapes due to the existence of private funding?
Anything to improve wine is a good thing!


I don't drink.

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Message 3297 - Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 22:27:34 UTC - in response to Message 3296.

Is the reason that we have been working on wine grapes due to the existence of private funding?
Anything to improve wine is a good thing!
I don't drink.
Are you insane?

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Message 3298 - Posted: 27 Oct 2023, 22:26:31 UTC - in response to Message 3297.
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We have done research on grape in collaboration with the Edmund Mach Foundation, funded by our regional government, the Autonomous Province of Trento. It's important for our local economy, from the agricultural point of view grape (and it's side product, wine), apples and small fruits are among the relevant products.
See https://www.fmach.it/eng

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Message 3300 - Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 21:16:55 UTC - in response to Message 3298.

We have done research on grape in collaboration with the Edmund Mach Foundation, funded by our regional government, the Autonomous Province of Trento. It's important for our local economy, from the agricultural point of view grape (and it's side product, wine), apples and small fruits are among the relevant products.
See https://www.fmach.it/eng


I believe that the science is good and the need is there. But we have systems that need tasks to work on. We can't go back in time so please bump your science people to finalize new work for us.
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Message 3301 - Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 21:33:21 UTC - in response to Message 3300.

In October 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
There was no expiration date.
But which version of the constitution?

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Message 3302 - Posted: 2 Nov 2023, 4:19:15 UTC - in response to Message 3301.

In October 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
There was no expiration date.
But which version of the constitution?


It may have amendments but we are still on the original constitution. Stand tall and be proud.

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Message 3303 - Posted: 2 Nov 2023, 5:15:04 UTC - in response to Message 3302.

It may have amendments but we are still on the original constitution. Stand tall and be proud.
Hmmm....

Amendment 1: Freedom of religion? Freedom of the press? Why would you want either of those?

Amendment 2: Right to slaughter your fellow man with guns, resulting in way more deaths than every other country. Guns belong in the wild west.

Amendment 13: Abolishes slavery. Well where's the fun in that?

Amendment 16: "Permits Congress to levy an income tax without apportioning it among the various states or basing it on the United States Census" - lets the government steal your money and spend it on another state?!

Amendment 18: Prohibiting alcohol, WTF?

Amendment 21: "federal offense to transport or import intoxicating liquors into U.S. states" - why?

Amendment 22: "Limits the number of times a person can be elected president." - why?

I have to admit, I like the way you actually vote for your president. There was no election for our Prime Minister, they can swap the leader of the party whenever they want.

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Message 3304 - Posted: 4 Nov 2023, 1:31:28 UTC - in response to Message 3300.

I believe that the science is good and the need is there. But we have systems that need tasks to work on. We can't go back in time so please bump your science people to finalize new work for us.


I've been running World Community Grid and DENIS@home (https://denis.usj.es/denisathome/) during the lull. DENIS@home doesn't always have tasks, but they have had a pretty steady flow recently.

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Message 3305 - Posted: 4 Nov 2023, 4:36:32 UTC - in response to Message 3304.

I've been running World Community Grid and DENIS@home (https://denis.usj.es/denisathome/) during the lull. DENIS@home doesn't always have tasks, but they have had a pretty steady flow recently.
I've been getting some Covid GPU tasks from WCG, but they're quite rare, apparently the scientists can't keep up with the GPUs. It's a pity they can't get the cancer research on GPU too. Folding@Home manages to do GPU work for cancer. Unfortunately it's not in Boinc, so running it at the same time requires manual adjustment and intervention.

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Message 3306 - Posted: 4 Nov 2023, 16:54:42 UTC - in response to Message 3305.

I've been running World Community Grid and DENIS@home (https://denis.usj.es/denisathome/) during the lull. DENIS@home doesn't always have tasks, but they have had a pretty steady flow recently.
I've been getting some Covid GPU tasks from WCG, but they're quite rare, apparently the scientists can't keep up with the GPUs. It's a pity they can't get the cancer research on GPU too. Folding@Home manages to do GPU work for cancer. Unfortunately it's not in Boinc, so running it at the same time requires manual adjustment and intervention.


I have been getting a decent number of OpenPandemics gpu tasks lately. That said, I don't understand why they can't make it more predictable.

I have a big GPU that runs folding@home, and an iGPU and a laptop GPU that run OpenPandemics as tasks appear. On the folding@home machine, I have boinc set to use 99% of CPUs so that folding@home has one dedicated thread.

MCM and folding@home are running completely different algorithms, so I don't know that it makes sense to compare them.

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Message 3307 - Posted: 4 Nov 2023, 17:04:48 UTC - in response to Message 3306.

I have been getting a decent number of OpenPandemics gpu tasks lately. That said, I don't understand why they can't make it more predictable.
Because it's dictated by when the scientists need calculations, not when we need them.

I have a big GPU that runs folding@home, and an iGPU and a laptop GPU that run OpenPandemics as tasks appear. On the folding@home machine, I have boinc set to use 99% of CPUs so that folding@home has one dedicated thread.
The trouble with Folding being off-Boinc, is I can't do OPG aswell, as Boinc takes over the GPU and Folding backs off, and their short deadlines get missed. Not sure why it's so shy.

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Message 3308 - Posted: 4 Nov 2023, 19:11:27 UTC - in response to Message 3307.

I have a big GPU that runs folding@home, and an iGPU and a laptop GPU that run OpenPandemics as tasks appear. On the folding@home machine, I have boinc set to use 99% of CPUs so that folding@home has one dedicated thread.
The trouble with Folding being off-Boinc, is I can't do OPG aswell, as Boinc takes over the GPU and Folding backs off, and their short deadlines get missed. Not sure why it's so shy.


I've let my big gpu do F@H and OPNG concurrently and it might slow down F@H a bit, but it hasn't been a big deal on my RTX 4070 Ti.

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Message 3309 - Posted: 4 Nov 2023, 19:37:14 UTC - in response to Message 3308.

I've let my big gpu do F@H and OPNG concurrently and it might slow down F@H a bit, but it hasn't been a big deal on my RTX 4070 Ti.
Strange, every time I've run Boinc and Folding together on one GPU or one CPU, Boinc gets priority. I've been told Folding uses the shaders on your GPU, perhaps Boinc projects use something different, I think usually the compute units? If you pick the right projects and your card can run shaders and compute units at once, you might manage both full speed.

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Message 3310 - Posted: 4 Nov 2023, 20:34:44 UTC - in response to Message 3309.
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Strange, every time I've run Boinc and Folding together on one GPU or one CPU, Boinc gets priority. I've been told Folding uses the shaders on your GPU, perhaps Boinc projects use something different, I think usually the compute units? If you pick the right projects and your card can run shaders and compute units at once, you might manage both full speed.


Maybe it's the settings. I have F@H set to run "while I'm working" and power "Full".

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Message 3311 - Posted: 5 Nov 2023, 8:21:28 UTC - in response to Message 3310.

Strange, every time I've run Boinc and Folding together on one GPU or one CPU, Boinc gets priority. I've been told Folding uses the shaders on your GPU, perhaps Boinc projects use something different, I think usually the compute units? If you pick the right projects and your card can run shaders and compute units at once, you might manage both full speed.
Maybe it's the settings. I have F@H set to run "while I'm working" and power "Full".

https://i.ibb.co/kKF238t/Screenshot-2023-11-04-162902.png
You're on the old version of Folding (why?). I'm on version 8, but when I was on 7 it was the same. I had it set to full like you, but it's still a lower priority than other programs (with good reason, to stop it interfering with what you're doing on the computer), but Boinc is higher priority than Folding, so it takes over. Not sure how you've managed it unless your (better than mine) GPU can do two different things at once better. As I said, I think Boinc and Folding use different parts of the GPU, so if yours can use both simultaneously, you can run both at once and I can't. I use mainly R9 280X (Tahiti chip) GPUs, and one R9 Nano (Fury chip) and one Baffin chip card (I forget the model).

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Message 3312 - Posted: 5 Nov 2023, 13:23:03 UTC - in response to Message 3303.

It may have amendments but we are still on the original constitution. Stand tall and be proud.
Hmmm....

Amendment 1: Freedom of religion? Freedom of the press? Why would you want either of those?

Amendment 2: Right to slaughter your fellow man with guns, resulting in way more deaths than every other country. Guns belong in the wild west.

Amendment 13: Abolishes slavery. Well where's the fun in that?

Amendment 16: "Permits Congress to levy an income tax without apportioning it among the various states or basing it on the United States Census" - lets the government steal your money and spend it on another state?!

Amendment 18: Prohibiting alcohol, WTF?

Amendment 21: "federal offense to transport or import intoxicating liquors into U.S. states" - why?

Amendment 22: "Limits the number of times a person can be elected president." - why?

I have to admit, I like the way you actually vote for your president. There was no election for our Prime Minister, they can swap the leader of the party whenever they want.


You are trying to understand 18th, 19th and 20th centutry Laws based on 21st lving, times were different when those Ammendments were made in Law, and then some were reppealed later on.

Oh and BTW Sweden has more guns per capita than the US does but has FAR fewer, again by capita, gun crimes than the US does. All the 'experts' are trying to get to the root question of why but as you'd expect the results are complicated.

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Message 3313 - Posted: 5 Nov 2023, 14:03:35 UTC - in response to Message 3312.

You are trying to understand 18th, 19th and 20th centutry Laws based on 21st lving, times were different when those Ammendments were made in Law, and then some were reppealed later on.
Most of what I wrote is still law.

Oh and BTW Sweden has more guns per capita than the US does but has FAR fewer, again by capita, gun crimes than the US does. All the 'experts' are trying to get to the root question of why but as you'd expect the results are complicated.
The reason is simple, Swedish people are far more intelligent than Americans. Letting a country full of children run around with weapons for adults is going to end in death.

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Message 3314 - Posted: 5 Nov 2023, 14:49:45 UTC - in response to Message 3311.

You're on the old version of Folding (why?). I'm on version 8, but when I was on 7 it was the same.


Where do you get version 8? Is it in beta?

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Message 3315 - Posted: 5 Nov 2023, 15:13:40 UTC - in response to Message 3314.
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You're on the old version of Folding (why?). I'm on version 8, but when I was on 7 it was the same.
Where do you get version 8? Is it in beta?
Here: https://foldingathome.org/beta/?lng=en

Yes it's beta but it's been out for ages and has no problems.

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