Posts by Mr P Hucker
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1) Message boards : Cafe : Children’s Respite Home closed by Network Rail’s Heartless Action (Message 3322)
Posted 9 Nov 2023 by Mr P Hucker
Sorry for the off topic post, but I stayed at this campsite/B&B/kid's charity and would hate to see it closed down. Network Rail never paid them the £250K damage they caused by making a flood by blocking a stream. Now they're doing this. It seems Network Rail operate above the law.

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2) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3321)
Posted 7 Nov 2023 by Mr P Hucker
Yes it is but if you understood WHY it might help you figure out WHY they are still Laws...to change a Constitutional Amendment takes 2/3rds of Congress to agree to send to the States and then it takes 2/3rds of them to ALSO agree to change the Law. It took over 20 years to change a Constitutional Amendment the last time it was changed and MOST of the people agreed it was one that NEEDED changing!!
Which means most of you agree with the daft laws I quoted.

That would be like me saying that Scotland is full of nothing but drunks and men shagging sheep!!
But it would be true if you said there were more of them than another country.

BOTH of our statements are UNTRUE and we BOTH know it!! The USA has 333.29 Million people, 99% of them either don't own guns or are responsible gun owners!!
You only need 0.1% of people to be nuts to kill a load of people.

The easy answer problem is the inner cities with waaay too many people in a dead end life with nothing to lose and getting their hands on a $40 gun is as easy as spitting on the ground. In their dead end lives a gun commands respect especially if you are willing to use it regardless of the consequences!! AND in some cases jail is a FAR better life than not eating for days at a time or sleeping in a place that is unsafe or full of people doing drugs.
So the only way to stop them is remove the guns. Unless you know of a way to make everyone well off.
3) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3319)
Posted 5 Nov 2023 by Mr P Hucker
I've never come across interference causing less productivity. Chips are clever enough to keep themselves busy with something all the time.
I ran GPUGRID for a while and those tasks alternated between the cpu and gpu. The waste bugged me, but running anything else slowed it down.
I can't run GPUGrid, I have no desire to buy a vastly overpriced Nvidia. But I've been told you can run a few of them at once until you're short of VRAM, then run another project aswell.
4) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3317)
Posted 5 Nov 2023 by Mr P Hucker
When I run F@H and OPNG concurrently, it's not really by design. The OPNG tasks are so unpredictable that I can't wait for them to come and turn F@H on and off. F@H basically utilizes the whole (4070 Ti) gpu. OPNG tasks, when they show up, poorly utilize the gpu. At one point, I had 3-4 running at the same time, to try to keep the gpu busy.

I would like to know whether running OPNG + F@H simultaneously is efficient, or if they interfere with each other and end up taking more time than running them sequentially.
I run 2 OPNG at once on my R9 Nano (a 4GB 8000GFlop card), and they fully use it. If they run at the same time as Folding, Folding almost stops. I think it all depends on what card you have.

I've never come across interference causing less productivity. Chips are clever enough to keep themselves busy with something all the time.
5) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3315)
Posted 5 Nov 2023 by Mr P Hucker
You're on the old version of Folding (why?). I'm on version 8, but when I was on 7 it was the same.
Where do you get version 8? Is it in beta?
Here: https://foldingathome.org/beta/?lng=en

Yes it's beta but it's been out for ages and has no problems.
6) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3313)
Posted 5 Nov 2023 by Mr P Hucker
You are trying to understand 18th, 19th and 20th centutry Laws based on 21st lving, times were different when those Ammendments were made in Law, and then some were reppealed later on.
Most of what I wrote is still law.

Oh and BTW Sweden has more guns per capita than the US does but has FAR fewer, again by capita, gun crimes than the US does. All the 'experts' are trying to get to the root question of why but as you'd expect the results are complicated.
The reason is simple, Swedish people are far more intelligent than Americans. Letting a country full of children run around with weapons for adults is going to end in death.
7) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3311)
Posted 5 Nov 2023 by Mr P Hucker
Strange, every time I've run Boinc and Folding together on one GPU or one CPU, Boinc gets priority. I've been told Folding uses the shaders on your GPU, perhaps Boinc projects use something different, I think usually the compute units? If you pick the right projects and your card can run shaders and compute units at once, you might manage both full speed.
Maybe it's the settings. I have F@H set to run "while I'm working" and power "Full".

https://i.ibb.co/kKF238t/Screenshot-2023-11-04-162902.png
You're on the old version of Folding (why?). I'm on version 8, but when I was on 7 it was the same. I had it set to full like you, but it's still a lower priority than other programs (with good reason, to stop it interfering with what you're doing on the computer), but Boinc is higher priority than Folding, so it takes over. Not sure how you've managed it unless your (better than mine) GPU can do two different things at once better. As I said, I think Boinc and Folding use different parts of the GPU, so if yours can use both simultaneously, you can run both at once and I can't. I use mainly R9 280X (Tahiti chip) GPUs, and one R9 Nano (Fury chip) and one Baffin chip card (I forget the model).
8) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3309)
Posted 4 Nov 2023 by Mr P Hucker
I've let my big gpu do F@H and OPNG concurrently and it might slow down F@H a bit, but it hasn't been a big deal on my RTX 4070 Ti.
Strange, every time I've run Boinc and Folding together on one GPU or one CPU, Boinc gets priority. I've been told Folding uses the shaders on your GPU, perhaps Boinc projects use something different, I think usually the compute units? If you pick the right projects and your card can run shaders and compute units at once, you might manage both full speed.
9) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3307)
Posted 4 Nov 2023 by Mr P Hucker
I have been getting a decent number of OpenPandemics gpu tasks lately. That said, I don't understand why they can't make it more predictable.
Because it's dictated by when the scientists need calculations, not when we need them.

I have a big GPU that runs folding@home, and an iGPU and a laptop GPU that run OpenPandemics as tasks appear. On the folding@home machine, I have boinc set to use 99% of CPUs so that folding@home has one dedicated thread.
The trouble with Folding being off-Boinc, is I can't do OPG aswell, as Boinc takes over the GPU and Folding backs off, and their short deadlines get missed. Not sure why it's so shy.
10) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3305)
Posted 4 Nov 2023 by Mr P Hucker
I've been running World Community Grid and DENIS@home (https://denis.usj.es/denisathome/) during the lull. DENIS@home doesn't always have tasks, but they have had a pretty steady flow recently.
I've been getting some Covid GPU tasks from WCG, but they're quite rare, apparently the scientists can't keep up with the GPUs. It's a pity they can't get the cancer research on GPU too. Folding@Home manages to do GPU work for cancer. Unfortunately it's not in Boinc, so running it at the same time requires manual adjustment and intervention.
11) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3303)
Posted 2 Nov 2023 by Mr P Hucker
It may have amendments but we are still on the original constitution. Stand tall and be proud.
Hmmm....

Amendment 1: Freedom of religion? Freedom of the press? Why would you want either of those?

Amendment 2: Right to slaughter your fellow man with guns, resulting in way more deaths than every other country. Guns belong in the wild west.

Amendment 13: Abolishes slavery. Well where's the fun in that?

Amendment 16: "Permits Congress to levy an income tax without apportioning it among the various states or basing it on the United States Census" - lets the government steal your money and spend it on another state?!

Amendment 18: Prohibiting alcohol, WTF?

Amendment 21: "federal offense to transport or import intoxicating liquors into U.S. states" - why?

Amendment 22: "Limits the number of times a person can be elected president." - why?

I have to admit, I like the way you actually vote for your president. There was no election for our Prime Minister, they can swap the leader of the party whenever they want.
12) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3301)
Posted 30 Oct 2023 by Mr P Hucker
In October 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
There was no expiration date.
But which version of the constitution?
13) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3297)
Posted 25 Oct 2023 by Mr P Hucker
Is the reason that we have been working on wine grapes due to the existence of private funding?
Anything to improve wine is a good thing!
I don't drink.
Are you insane?
14) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3295)
Posted 25 Oct 2023 by Mr P Hucker
Is the reason that we have been working on wine grapes due to the existence of private funding?
Anything to improve wine is a good thing!
15) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3292)
Posted 24 Oct 2023 by Mr P Hucker
Perhaps you could make a new application and make the BOINC volunteers do part of the analyzing of the data themselves?
I assume this analysis requires a degree in biology, and isn't something done by computer.
16) Message boards : News : Summer break (Message 3289)
Posted 21 Oct 2023 by Mr P Hucker
Is there any way to give the new tasks a different name than the same name you've been using for a long time? A new name for the Application because it's a new year, a new range or type of data etc etc would bring in more crunchers looking to crunch for the latest new name for an Application.

Sounds like a pointless fashion statement to me.
17) Message boards : Science : AMD COVID-19 HPC Fund (Message 2258)
Posted 9 Mar 2021 by Mr P Hucker
(apocalyptic mode on) there will be another one (apocalyptic mode off)
The pandemic will be over by the time you get those resources lol

The government already has the plans set out for the next one, this was just a test of obedience, and we failed like sheep.
18) Message boards : Science : AMD COVID-19 HPC Fund (Message 2231)
Posted 6 Mar 2021 by Mr P Hucker
Do you finally have access to the resources?

AMD are being a bit weird here, this is like promising a kid a bike for christmas, but not telling him which christmas.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : FMA application for windows_x86_64 (Message 2206)
Posted 14 Feb 2021 by Mr P Hucker
Depends on the science application and whether most of the application memory read/writes can fit in the cpu L3 cache.

Some projects really can be sped up if the work can fit all in the L3 cache.

Other projects don't really need to do much data movement out to main memory until the task compute is entirely finished.

So the speed of main memory is not that important since only two accesses are needed, once to get the data into the cpu and once out to main memory and storage to upload the result.

As with most things related to BOINC, YMMV depending on individual project quirks.

Maybe those projects that don't quite fit in the cache are only using RAM occasionally, so my doubling of the RAM speed was still negligible. It didn't speed up the game Fallout 4 either, despite people saying that game in particular would be faster. I guess the Ryzen has a good large cache.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : FMA application for windows_x86_64 (Message 2202)
Posted 13 Feb 2021 by Mr P Hucker
Other important factors while comparing computers, for our application, are the RAM speed and CPU cache size.

I'd like to learn about this.

I changed my PC from single channel to dual channel RAM, effectively doubling the RAM speed, but nothing went faster, not one of the 10 projects I run. I guess the cache inside the CPU outweighed the slow RAM.


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