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Message 2566 - Posted: 28 Feb 2022, 14:38:40 UTC
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I asked earlier about the equipment necessary to run a project, you basically didn't know. I am puzzled, you now say you have found another disk. The reason I am nagging on about this, is that I added a new Samsung 870 EVO 2.5 500GB SSD to this machine earlier this year. The cost was trivial. >edit< It cost 529 Danish Kroner.
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Message 2569 - Posted: 28 Feb 2022, 16:06:40 UTC - in response to Message 2566.
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The issue here is not about the server itself, which, by the way, is not very powerful but is working. The problem is the *big* University storage system that we heavily use (I don't know the technical specs of it)
The complete expansion of a single human gene (input file, output files etc.) is ~385Mb (compressed). Just for the human genome dataset we have already expanded around 57000 of them. I let you do the math ;)
Most of the disk storage that we use is obviously just for keeping the history. The needed "live" storage for running the server is about 4-8 terabytes.
So, what we need in order to be independent of the University's storage system is something like, at minimum, 2x 4TB (Raid 0), for example two 3.84TB SSD SAS Read Intensive 12Gbps 2.5in Hot-plug. Please check the prices https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/384tb-ssd-sas-read-intensive-12gbps-512e-25in-pm6-hot-plug/apd/345-bbxy/storage-drives-media
We simply don't have that money....

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Message 2571 - Posted: 28 Feb 2022, 20:10:12 UTC
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I have asked what...

2x 8TB (Raid 0), for example two 3.84TB SSD SAS Read Intensive 12Gbps 2.5in Hot-plug

... that would cost from Samsung, who supply my SSD's. Their chat type person was useless and directed me to their local office. I can ask them in the morning.

Two 3.84TB SSD is, of course, not going to give you 2x 8TB....
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Message 2573 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 12:51:18 UTC

... and to date, I have yet to receive a reply which actually answered my question. Their marketing junk is pretty voluminous though...
Has the price of your current preferred solution just taken a series kick up?
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Message 2577 - Posted: 6 Mar 2022, 13:29:27 UTC
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Not much better price here in Belgium.
Also 4,000+

Are you guys allowed to do fund raising at all?

SiDock has a page for normal currency and crypto currency as well.
If everyone on here (volunteers with computers) would put in say 10 Euro (or equivalent in their currency)you would be able to solve your problem quickly.
If each user on this project gave 10 euro you would be able to upgrade with no problem.

Something to ask the administration about.

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Message 2578 - Posted: 6 Mar 2022, 15:13:51 UTC

Amazon could have it to you in a few days in the U.S.
I don't know about the EU.
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-3-84TB-Read-Intensive-12GBPS/dp/B089FKJ5X9/ref=sr_1_4

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Message 2579 - Posted: 6 Mar 2022, 15:18:16 UTC - in response to Message 2578.

It is out of stock.

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Message 2580 - Posted: 6 Mar 2022, 16:32:08 UTC

Anything bought outside of the EU is subject to country tax plus customs fees.
So there is a unit in the US for $1,427 (1303 Euros), but then you add tax (in Belgium its 21%) so that's 1576 + 15 in customs fees, which brings it up to 1592 (rounded up) plus shipping costs from the US if they ship to Europe. That is less than the 4,000 Euros, but it includes a lot of if's and the warranty would be a US warranty and the drive if it had problems would have to go back to the US to be fixed.

So it is better to keep it in the EU. Costs will be higher, but the EU guarantee applies.

The drives here are exactly the model listed, just refurbished and under 1,000 Euro from Denmark: https://www.kimbrer.com/dell-tp4w3.html?srsltid=8981b0caf285434f8821256b4be70a58

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